Topic: Suffok D3...Predictions???

most top prospects not only have offers already, most of them have already signed. russell is a VERY good back, but clearly not a D1 prospect.

 Actually he is VERY ACCURATE in his statement.  But if you have proof of D1 camp visits, letters, etc. that will result in an offer by mid-season at the latest...we'd all be interested in hearing your knowledge.  Now-a-days...D1 schools just don't make first offers AFTER a season ends in November.  So where's he going??? 

Why don't you start up a Sean Russell thread so we can get back to the topic

yeah.  They run it very well.

It is intersting how the trend is going...6-7 years ago the Wing-T was the prominant offense in D3 Now I think WHB & MP are the only remaining "true" Wing-T teams.  It will be interesting to see what they do...Will they convert completely to the "Dark-side" and go spread like everyone else??

a disciplined wing-T will always be the best highschool football offense out there.  the spread is a great offense if you have the athletes, which most coaches think they do and very rarely actually do . West hampton was one of my suprise teams if you look back a few posts, however if they transition to the spread.... take them off that list for me, i think they will struggle.

It is intersting how the trend is going...6-7 years ago the Wing-T was the prominant offense in D3 Now I think WHB & MP are the only remaining "true" Wing-T teams. 

thw wing T    has ZERO LIC appearences in the last 10 years in Div. III

I'd say that athletic talent has had more to do with who's been to the LIC than overall X's & O's philosophy.  While correct in recent years, the Wing-T has and will continue to be a competitive offense.  My point was more about how the Spread has become the real "IN-OFFENSE," but not really producing champions.  The past 10 LIC D3 reps were as follows.

08 - Sayville (spread); 07 - Islip (I-form); 06 - Sayville (I-form); 05 - Huntington (Spread); 04 - Sayville (I-form); 03 - Huntington (Power-bone); 02 - Islip (I/option); 01 - Harborfields (I-form); 00 - Amityville (Wing-T/Single Wing); 99 - Amityville (Wing-T/Single Wing)

Also in the last 10 years...Amityville w/Wing-T offense lost in OT to Huntington in 2003 SCC; MP was in playoffs w/Wing-T in 04 & 08. East Hampton was in with Wing-T in 03.  Huntington lost to Harborfields in 2001 SCC using Wing-T.  And of course Comsewogue was Wing-T based under Cassesse for ever, losing to Islip in 02 SCC. 

3rd and goal. Nice post.  Gets us back to talking football.

I think you will find that most  high school coaches go with what they are comfortable with from their playing days.

That being said, the Spread is a very difficult concept to define.  It seems as though the Run N' Shoot has had a huge influence on how the game is being played as teams "Spread" the field in an effort to actually run the ball. Is spread, 5 wides? 4 wides? 2 wides/2 TE's? Is it a no TE offense with 2 backs, the shot gun and 3 wides?  Basically, the idea of setting up in the shot gun has me believing that teams are in the "set" of the spread but still running their same old stuff.

 From the standpoint of a defense, I would think that, all talent being the same, the toughest thing to defend nowadays is an excellent true triple option team. It is not often seen and thus tough to prepare for.  Option responsibilities drive you crazy as a coach from a teaching standpoint in one week's time.

Is there anyone on the Island who is running TRUE TRIPLE from either underneath center or in the Gun?

i agree nicepass. a true triple option is great, and this is prooved by everyone running theese Fad offenses. they still run triple option plays as a basis to their offense. take the "spread" for example. most plays start with a motion back coming infront of the QB just as he receives the ball in the gun. thus creating the first "option" then a tailback crossing infront of the QB's face creating a mesh for the 2nd option, and ofcoarse an athletic QB running the ball is the 3rd option. Not always in that order but even the new fangled offenses vert back to the good  old triple otion

As far as true triple in Suffolk...Deer Park is the only triple team I'm familiar with.  They run midline, inside veer & outside veer as their option package.  Bellport might run it as part of their offense, but they are more power than anything when they line up in 3-RB sets.  Huntington runs some triple (shovel option) option from their gun (ala Urban Meyer/Utah/Florida style), Rocky Point was full-time triple for the last 5 seasons, but has now switched to the I-formation.  True triple teams don't dabble in it as a package...its all or nothing.  It is difficult to prepare for any offense that is unique and not often seen.  Not only is it not well understood, but its hard to mimick the execution during practice for the defense.  This is a reason that the Single Wing is starting to make a comeback in other areas of the country.  I think that if you really look at option teams, 2-TE Wishbone (Bethpage) teams have trouble because of the need to throw the ball to get guys out of the box.  Wing-T teams are finding this problem as well...seeing 9 & 10 players within 5 yards of the LOS.  This is why Spread Option is more efficient IMO.