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Bruce4Real

 

Having an insider’s peek into Mitchell report this windbag first tells the whole world that sux fans should try to be impartial about it and not to go after those Yankees players that MAY be mentioned in the report (he must have known then that Clemens name was there) and now he goes after Clemens himself because he had accused Bonds in the past.

 

 

The same Bonds he attacked only to apologize 30 seconds later. I guess an apology should be forthcoming according to his predictable MO. And some fans still wonder why we call him WINDBAG. You chose to play for the sux for peanuts plus incentives?

Live with it.

Bruce4Real

 

That’s not to say that the cheaters deserve special treatment but at least us fans can only guess what went on in those clubhouses or still does but the players . . . .  Please . . .  you ought to know what goes on or went on unchallenged, you were there.

 

 

You chose not to say anything then spare us the crap about soul searching that train already left the station.

 

 

Same thing applies to congressmen and senators. With them it’s all about grandstanding and checking the nation’s political pulse and their love not of the game but of headlines. They won’t do anything of substance until a few decent lawmakers come up and truly decide to clean up the sports without worrying about their political careers.

 

 

Listen carefully to Bud: “we have nothing to apologize for” “we did what we could” and you’re telling me the rocket is in denial? How about the whole sport: teams, players and the officials on both sides? Who are we kidding?

Bruce4Real

 

MLB should soon provide the necessary funds for a truly independent lab (without any political ties of any kind oh and test those frigging sux too) to do the testing once this blood test becomes available; then test any player that falls under the at random definition any time of the year unannounced and screw their fears about needles (you hate needles try another sport) no grace period should be given and the right to appeal these players may have should be kept to a minimum.

You make a ton of money, then you play the game the way is supposed to. You don’t? Then you’ll pay a ton of money in fines and your career will be no more.

 

 

And if the players union balks then Congress can come in and take their sport’s independence away. They have the power they can flex their legal muscle. IF THEY TRULY CARE ABOUT THE GAME they’ll do it. The fans will all be in favor. Because the game will become again the national pastime it’s supposed to be and not the dirty needle business it is right now.

 

Bruce4Real

 

Knowing how easily the public union can be swayed I wonder what will happen in about 10 to 15 years from now (maybe less) when those players who abused their bodies with roids or hormones will begin to pay the price. The headaches, the tumors, the immuno-suppressor medications, the constant threat of an infection, their vulnerable offspring. Your family better be strong.

 

 

Will they file a lawsuit against MLB (their families should file a lawsuit against their Union instead)? Will that money last enough to help them cover all those health bills or will they be cheating their (healthy?) children out of a better future?

 

 

Will they start telling us and whoever may want to listen: “If I knew then what I know now . . .”

 

 

 

How will we react?  I don’t think I will have the heart to say: “I’ve told you so”.

Bruce4Real

 

A day has elapsed and Girlie Curt hasn’t issued the apology du jour. But trust me one is forthcoming.

After that federal judge undressed the honorable L.A. sister in the world of tabloids (“we deeply regret our mistake and apologize for it”, a bit too late don’t you think? Whatever happened to due diligence or due process?) Curt will be very careful as his shifty sound judgment may have made him slide farther than he thought he should.

Would he have opened his mouth knowing what we know now about that piece of disinformation by the L.A. tabloid? I doubt it. That windbag is gutless as is someone else at a NY tabloid suddenly transformed into the Yankees would be destroyer. You’ll see the latter beginning to streamline his future comments on the subject ever so slightly.
Bruce4Real

 

Why do we come after you?  Because you always lead with your chin.

 

One obsessed with his greater self and the other out of sheer admiration for the not so recent work of Mitchell who, according to some NY Times sportswriters, didn’t do such a great job or investigation beyond what actually fell on his plate (as we humbly suggested here a few days ago).

 

Suddenly Clements whose walls were closing in on him (according to Marshall Lupica and posse) doesn’t look so lost and desperate. Is he guilty as hell? We don’t know we weren’t there but Schilling and numerous other players were and said nothing then. I can’t help but start my own watch on Lupica disclaimers or tone-down comments and let me check that Foston blogger . . . no, no apology as of this time but we know one is surely forthcoming.

 

 

Once a wimp always a wimp. 

 

Bruce4Real

 

Girlie Curt apology watch.  Day two, a feeble attempt:

 

 

“Does Roger have to clear his name? Hell no he doesn't. If he doesn't care about the statements in the report and how they reflect on him then I don't need to be the one to tell you he can do what he wants," Schilling wrote.

 

 

How the statements reflect on him? Whatever happened to “Guilty as hell with far greater implications, return the CY Young awards?

 

 

Time to retain counsel windbag. You might need it.

 

 

And no, that’s not enough. You need to do better than that. Your mouth won’t listen to your brain as usual.  Keep trying. We know you’ll get there.

Bruce4Real

 

Remember when Palmeiro went before the Nation and told Congress what they could do with his right index finger? Did they teach him a lesson? NO. I guess the polls results were against such a move. He proved positive afterwards and did anything happen to him despite all the dust raised by lawmakers and the press? NO and this time the polls were probably in favor. SO what gives? Maybe these sharp congressmen don’t like people telling them what to do or not do. They can make a fool by themselves thank you. Keep your suggestions to yourselves fellow Americans.

 

 

But I think Congress should make an exception and invite a hard nose no-nonsense investigator like Marshall Lupica. I’m sure he’ll set the record straight under oath. He’s been sending people up the Hill recently maybe he can share some insights with us mere mortals. I’m all for it. How about it Chairman? Let’s invite Lupica and hope he doesn’t soil his pants while trying to educate us all. And he can talk all we can stomach about his infatuation with Mitchell and his right on ba//s report. Let’s give him that much.

Bruce4Real

 

Dan Naulty’s story on the Daily News gives us an insight into what is like to play in the majors and pay the price for that right.

 

 

Someone who once made the choice to mess with his body to belong to that fraternity of professional players at whatever costs now pays the price for those choices.

 

It’s so easy to say: Hey man you made those choices now pay the piper but the truth is everybody is guilty: fans, greedy players, greedy relatives and sportswriters.

 

 

We think nothing of attacking opposing players because we feel we owe to our team and that’s a given but then there is the other group of fans those who attack our players at home, those who are lagging behind and we treat them like garbage (when I say we I mean fans and tabloids sportswriters alike) we forget we are dealing with human beings trying very hard to perform for an entire season sweating and suffering for 162 games or more just to make the team or make the team perform as we all expect them to.

Bruce4Real

 

I’m always amazed at how nobody seems to care about how tough playing at professional level is. All you hear is: you jerk you stink, play like a man you’re getting paid a lot of money give us our money’s worth.

We conveniently forget about those families that depend on those athletes or those who care about those athletes and know what they go through year in and year out to stay on top of their game and contribute.

Look at the most recent stories of Small and Chacon. When they were doing fine for the team everybody praised Cashman for that great find only to urge him to get rid of them (the sooner the better) when they no longer served their purpose “because the Yankee have the money to buy better players, better names worthy of the honor of calling themselves Yankees”. It’s only when we are faced with sad stories like the loss of Cory Lidle that we put (if only for a brief moment) things in proper perspective.

 

 

I blame those tabloids sportswriters who love those outrageous headlines for the extra pressure put on these athletes; these are the same ones who are now clamoring for Bud to clean up the sport like if they really care this time.

 

 

The facts were always there. McGwire wasn’t that bright at hiding them nor was Canseco or Giambi or Sosa when they bulked up and nobody or almost nobody cared to investigate them. Why wasn’t less important then? Why was that news not worth reporting? We all wanted to say “I was there when those records were broken”.

Bruce4Real

Next time you watch a game in Detroit, St. Louis, Arlington, Phoenix, Miami or New York and you can’t take the heat or the humidity think about those players sweating it out and trying to do well just to please us. Those are human beings too.

Having succeeded in High School, Travel teams and college level against tremendous odds to make it to the majors now they have to stay on top of their game because for the fans is either that or “trade that jerk so I can enjoy my beer, I’ve paid for my seat show me some guts”.

 

 

We sit and watch those movies about roman gladiators with utter disbelief and can’t understand the behavior shown by those mindless mobs and we like to think we are much better than they were. Think again maybe we’re not.

 

 

We blame the players and the roids and other drugs’ culture and the players union for condoning that behavior and MLB for turning the other way but maybe we are also to blame. We were part of the equation.

 

 

We want our players to be pure and perfect when the truth is we are not that much better. Just poorer.

Bruce4Real

 

Let me come out of hibernation just to reaffirm some comments I’ve already made about why the Sux were never really interested in Santana and it has nothing to do with Santana not being a great pitcher.

 

 

With the Yankees it’s just a matter of deciding which talent they are ready to part in order to acquire Santana, the new contract Santana is seeking should not make the Yankees (or Hank for that matter) lose any sleep. We have already said that giving Kennedy and Hughes for Santana is definitively a NO NO I don’t care if Santana wins 20 games in the coming season.

 

 

That’s too much talent to give for anybody unless we are desperate. I think the Yankees are T.O. about Mitchell and sisters more than desperate. Although Kennedy, Hughes and Joba will have a pitch count closely watched by Yankee coaches next season they still have Mussina who could give us some quality outings to complement whatever Wins we’ll get from the dynamic trio.

Bruce4Real

 

The Sux on the other hand cannot sign Santana; I don't care how close he is to Pappy Ortiz.

Ideally they would want Santana for a year at the going price but Santana would veto such a deal.

And IF the Sux decide to trade their top prospects and REALLY sign Santana instead of just continue to play spoilers (like I’m certain the case is) then they would have to give Beckett a similar deal because Beckett has been a lights out ACE this season.

How do you manage to keep Becket happy when he’s a proven ACE with an incredible presence on the mound and convince him to continue to play for peanuts?  FAT CHANCE.

 

 

There is no way in hell the Sux can be serious about paying Santana what he will demand and at the same time parting with those players Minn wants and not doing a similar deal for Beckett.  Guaranteed. Therefore the plan is NO GO from the start.

 

 

The Yankees need to remain firm in their belief that Kennedy and Hughes are definitively too much to give for Santana but they have to find a way to make Minn understand that the Sux are just teasing them as they always have done for years. They’ve reached their spending limit, now they have to pay for the not so calculated risk they took going after Matsuzaka and Drew. Yankees on the other hand are a moneymaking machine and we fans make sure that continues to be the case.

 

 

Go for the jugular (in private not in public) and let’s get it done once and for all. 

Happy Holidays Hank & Co. (take good care of the Boss). We’ll keep the faith at our end.

I'm_just_saying

 

Talk about GALL. McNamee’s lawyer, Ward, said this about Mitchell and his report: "Senator Mitchell's investigation was unbiased and objective", Yeah right Ward.

 

 

All I’d say to Clemens’ attorney and investigators is: while you’re at it. Check that alleged leak on that Cleveland pitcher prior to that crucial game in the ALCS which went to the Sux and gave them the right to toy with the Rockies in the 2007 WS.

I'm_just_saying

 

The logic applied by the local tabloids in the Mitchell report troubles me. They claim we had to believe that what McNamee said is the truth and nothing but the truth and the fact that Pettitte admitted to taking HGH when McNamee said he did amounts to a conviction of Clemens.

 

I’m not a lawyer but I’d like to think if that’s the case one could easily apply the same type of reasoning and state that since we are taking McNamee’s word to convict the rocket then by the same token we had to assume that since McNamee says that Roger was injected in his last year with Toronto and the 2000 season with the Yankees ONLY, then does that mean the rocket was clean from 2001 to 2007?

I'm_just_saying

 

Did anybody inject Clemens from 2001 to 2007?

 

If the answer is we don’t know then some tabloids are being choosey picking the portion of those years they like to focus on (1 ½ season versus 7), not only that but calling on Congress to turn their one vote in the HOF voting into practically a landslide without Clemens being guilty beyond reasonable doubt and deciding when to convict someone in the court of public opinion which they manipulate. Wouldn’t this amount to deciding who’s guilty until proven innocent? Go figure. I’m saying this because those same tabloids claim that Clemens “profile” didn’t change one iota in that 2001-2007 period when he became a pitcher for all ages.

 

So I don’t see how we can conclude that McNamee is the smoking gun without reservations, really.

I'm_just_saying

 

Back to those tabloids. If Bonds was called before that House committee when Schilling, Palmeiro, McWire and others were called before them then Clemens should also be called to testify before them.

 

Bonds wasn’t called? Then what business do these tabloids have suggesting the House committee members make a fool of themselves by calling Clemens this time just to please the egos of some tabloids’ sportswriters who think they have an inside track into the House committee deliberations?

I'm_just_saying

 

This season was a mixed bag for Yankee fans. It could be easily argued that not going beyond the first postseason round was a failure but we know by now that being lucky is part of the post season equation.

 

Coming back from a terrible start and reaching the postseason, this time via the Wild Card system was no small feat and it also tested the fiber of the current lineup, that has to be encouraging: coming back from such a horrendous start and posting one of the greatest comebacks in team history. The same team with a better SP has to make us feel good about the immediate future.

 

So we are poised to take on the next season with a team blessed with so much young talent and backed by great proven players like Damon, Abreu, Matsui, Posada, Jeter, Arod, Mariano, Hawkins, Wang and Pettitte has to makes us smile and feel good about our chances.

I'm_just_saying

 

We will know in a few weeks if this team will turned out to be a fighting machine, a team with the tools needed to go all the way playing to win as a team. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.

 

So we have to be grateful for the way things turned out for us in the 2007 season from a pure baseball viewpoint and we have to feel optimistic about the future.

 

I wish the best fans on this planet as well as the players and coaches of the finest team on earth a very Happy New Year. Thanks for that 2007 season effort! We’ll fair better in 2008, we know that.

 

And foremost let’s wish our troops everywhere and their families a safest and blessed Happy New Year.

thedonofcourse

Bruce4Real wrote: Link
 The Sux on the other hand cannot sign Santana; I don't care how close he is to Pappy Ortiz.Ideally they would want Santana for a year at the going price but Santana would veto such a deal.And IF the Sux decide to trade their top prospects and REALLY sign Santana instead of just continue to play spoilers (like I’m certain the case is) then they would have to give Beckett a similar deal because Beckett has been a lights out ACE this season.How do you manage to keep Becket happy when he’s a proven ACE with an incredible presence on the mound and convince him to continue to play for peanuts?  FAT CHANCE.  There is no way in hell the Sux can be serious about paying Santana what he will demand and at the same time parting with those players Minn wants and not doing a similar deal for Beckett.  Guaranteed. Therefore the plan is NO GO from the start.  The Yankees need to remain firm in their belief that Kennedy and Hughes are definitively too much to give for Santana but they have to find a way to make Minn understand that the Sux are just teasing them as they always have done for years. They’ve reached their spending limit, now they have to pay for the not so calculated risk they took going after Matsuzaka and Drew. Yankees on the other hand are a moneymaking machine and we fans make sure that continues to be the case.  Go for the jugular (in private not in public) and let’s get it done once and for all.  Happy Holidays Hank & Co. (take good care of the Boss). We’ll keep the faith at our end.
All good points you make, include the mets as well no way freddie wilpon spends between 120 and 150 million dollars for a pitcher ! Soon before ST the twins will deal with the Yankees for santana simply because no one else will or can pay santana what he wants! Hank would be wise to tell twins by a certain date they will remove Hughes from the deal and revise it with more Minor league talent! Otherwise yankees need to be looking at signing another starter such as Bedard or Blanton as well as Houston Street (RP). Yankees cannot start the season with a staff of Pettetti, Wang, Joba, Hughes and Kennedy and no dependable setup-man! While it may sound and look good on paper it will not work, need another dependable starter to compete with Boston and Moose is not the answer!
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