Topic: Sal Ciampi Jr has been suspended

well your boy REALOLDTIMER73 is talking about us public school kids, and i guess your a fine example that this guy just has something wrong with a good football program because your not spelling to great either and with that last comment im guessing you or your child goes to private school.

plus why do you people care its not like your kids go to east islip. we all love both of the ciampis and look up to them for teaching us how to be dedicated athletes and this is why we win and your all just jealous.

Well at least I admit it when I misspelled a word.  Your reference to a$$wipe....is that a Proper Noun or a regular noun or are you in need of help?  Good job PWT.....

Wrong assumption.  As usual.  Anyone with a brain knows public education is flawed.....or how else would they allow an ignorant fool like you graduate......BTW, private school isn't much better.  Your name says it all....eifootball......not brainsurgeon or ceo or rocketscientist.....just another living in the past alum that will be wearing his championship jacket when he's 50.

PS  I have daughters.........

You'll never get it......

PS  It's you're not your

You love to correct everyone's spelling and grammar...are you an English teacher or just an A-hole?

I have to say that I respect your passion in defending your coach. I read in earlier post that Coach Ciampi was instrumental in helping you get into USMMA. Congrats btw. I want to ask you (without gtting into one of these arguments) what is it that your coach "stands for"? Again, not challenging you, as you clearly know him better than I do. I only have friends in district who have played both football and baseball for Jr. AND Sr. I also have seen both of them coach games over the years. So please let me know.

Just an A-hole I guess.......happy now?  You anonymously win.

I apologize.  If you're being truthful, then I wish you the best.  I know some wonderful people at the Academy and I hope you fit in.   Good luck and if you're playing, Mike Toop is a true gentleman.  You'll get a real idea of what a coach is from him and his family stock.

PS What does he stand for?

The Ciampi family is known around East Islip as a very hard nosed family.  They teach discipline and putting your team before yourself.  I had the pleasure of playing for Ciampi Sr at the end of his run at East Islip and Sal J. Ciampi (not junior by the way) was the assistant coach when I was there.  Both teams that I played for becames families and that is what coach always wanted.  I still have best friends from both of those teams and this is 10-15 years later now.  They taught me how to be a successful human being even if everything is against you.  We never had the best talent on the football or baseball field, but we were always in the playoffs and championship games in both sports.  Were they hard on us when we did something wrong?  Absolutely!!!  Did they grab your facemask every once in a while if you screwed up?  Defninitely!! 

 Both of these coaches molded boys into men.  Almost all of my friends that played for these coaches went on to be successful professionals, some even went home to teach and coach in EI.  Coach Ciampi helped me get a football scholarship to a Division 1 AA school and I graduated from there with a 3.4.  Dont get me wrong my parents were the majority reason why I am successful in life, but the Ciampi family helped me realize that I could do anything in life, from making all county in football and baseball to being a great father and role model for my children. 

Growing up my father and I made a deal that we would never talk football in front of my mother because he knew that it was a very tough sport and that coaches need to get in your face sometimes.  My father knew that these coaches were winners for a reason and he will tell you to this day that those coaches were the reason for our success.

 The problem with parents these days is that they believe their child is the next Joe Montana or Derek Jeter and if the coach doesnt think so they have an ax to grind. 

I agree with Oldtimer a little bit that the kids these days are coddled by their parents and the mentality of the parents is totally different from when I was in high school only 15 years ago.  I always knew coming up through the ranks what I was getting into when I signed up for baseball.  You werent going to get a nice try buddy you will get them next time.  I was going to get a man that knew what he wanted and was going to yell and drive it into your head until you did it correctly.  Even after going to college and learning new plays I can still tell you my line blocking rules from high school because of this reason.  When it came to school if you did something wrong in class he told the teachers that he would take care of it and take care of it he did.  They discipline players/students for screwing up, but if things were going well you could always rely on a couple of great one-liners from the old man or Sal. 

 Sal J. needs to know that if he did cross that line he deserves to be punished but I find it hard to believe that he would hit anyone with a bat with intent to harm.  I know most of the posters on here never played for the Ciampi men, but if you look closely the people that did play for them will defend them until they are blue in the face.  The Ciampi's have become family to many of these young men, lets hope that all the accusations are not true and that he will be on the sidelines again next year for football and baseball

The Ciampi name stands for discipline, honesty, integrity, TEAM, and family.

Well although the question was posed to the boy who has played under Sal (the son) Ciampi, he has not responded...so I will offer my thoughts anyway.  Even if all those things that you claim the Ciampi name stands for are accurate, I think it must be stated that thousands of HS coaches all over the country represent those same qualities.  They too get the job done both building succesful programs and building character.  I ask you...would you coach the same way?  The difference is that they do it without the "extra baggage". BTW...This discussion is not about Sal (the father) but about his son so let's just discuss him.  While the idea that he struck a player forcefully with a bat is hard to believe, anything other than a tap is out of line. I too have had my facemask grabbed and jerked back in the day, but never told that my "life is worthless" as he has said to several players.  I believe that the verbal abuse is the main source of contempt here.  WHil I agree with arlier posts about parental perception becoming more sensitive these days, I also feel that if my son/daughter was treated so poorly (and never positively reinforcd) by a "bully" I would be crtain to have a sit down with that coach. I am familar with many programs on Long Island in several sports, and have known coaches to be reprimanded for far, far less. Should this man lose his coaching job? I don't know all the details, but he MUST BE WARNED at the least and be put on some sort of probation to monitor his conduct.

What a dangerous precedent East Islip Schools will be setting by allowing this to go unpunished at all.  Should a matah teacher in the HS be allowed to hit a student over the head with a text book if he screwed up on a problem? How about screaming at him with the intent to embarrass him with obscenities? Do you really think that will make him study harder?  How about when you show up for work? These actions without the occasional "good job" would make you a more productive employee? The community has been scared to step forward because they firmly believe that the father runs things even while in retirement. So any hopes of removal is a lost cause and such an insecure bully would take it out on there kid.

BTW...the "name" has a few recent clinks in it. The father brought the asst football/phys ed teacher into the district. He also helped him land the girls hoops job because of all the voluntary stuff he did for him. Bet the district would like to take that decision back. Years ago his asst. left the district as both a coach and a teacher to coach/teach in another district. Someone ealier posted that the son has been through a dozen or more asst football coaches in last 6 years or so largely because nobody wants to work with him.

Time will tell.  A parent in EI tells me that there is hearing this week.

It seems like this guy was born on third base, and thinks he hit a triple!!!

51 for life and amateur77 make very good points.  I have known the ciampi family for quite some time...i played for the older ciampi in the early 80's.  I have been through hell and back with that man, and yes, he helped form me into the young man i became back then.  However, this is about Sal jr.   He is stuck in a difficult position, being that he was handed a position in two sports (allowing him to make almost $20,000 additional in salary), and treated himself as if he earned these positions.  He is not the most gifted when it comes to dealing with parents, and comes across as the most pompous and arrogant of people.  Is he a good football coach? No...but does he know his stuff? Absolutely.  You CANNOT beat these kids down these days...it's not the same as it was back then and when he played for his dad.

If he did something wrong, he deserves to be punished for it.  Nobody on here is saying that the Ciampi name isn't well known, or synonymous with coaching and tough disciplined football.  What we're saying is that 2009 isnt the same as 1979.  YOu have to acclimate yourself to the changing of the type of players and kids you get, and these kids dont tolerate the verbal and physical abuse like my father and other parents did back then.  He has been warned...letter have been written...he has been spoken to already.  It's time to make a change.

Maybe he didnt really hit this player/student, maybe that is why he was reinstated as the coach.  I agree that Sal comes across an *** to parents sometimes but that is because he is on the defensive all the time.  Sal doesnt want to get caught up in the politics.  He wants to put the best players on the field all the time, he doesnt want to be friends with parents and feel bad for not playing the parents kid.   I think him being crude and unapproachable is his way of him trying to make sure that personal feelings never get in the way of the task at hand and that is winning games and coaching these kids to the best of his ability.

 One other thing, you said that he is not a good football coach, I disagree whole heartedly.  He knows the game in and out and can expose a teams defense.  He makes great half time adjustments and kept a very subpar football team this year in a ton of games.  The team this year was young and hurt a ton, but he still played a very good Bellport team to a tough loss in the playoffs. 

 I never said he wasn't a good coach or didn't help shape the lives of some of his student athletes. I said if it turned out to be true  than he should undoubtedly be fired. Believe me I understand how coaches can get in your face. I played hockey in both high school as well as D-III college, I have had plenty of times where a coach has grabbed my cage and shaken my head around. My only point was that if these allegations were true then Ciampi should have been canned, if not worse.