http://forum.newsday.com/forums/357/HighSchoolFencing/ Here's your chance to talk high school fencing with other local fans. Please keep your comments clean. NOTE: If you attempt to use this forum to demean or insult student-athletes, you will be blocked from making future posts. 2007-12-04 12:34:14 http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/13010/ 13010 This fan forum has been closed. Please use one of our new fan forums here:http://www.newsday.com/sports/high-school/high-school-sports-fan-forums-1.1466330Note that some winter and spring sports fan forums will not return until the new season begins. 2009-10-05 07:28:20 michael_casey <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/9281/ 9281 As if individuals is not challenging enough. Interested in doing something completely different and a LOT of fun? This saturday, March 21st at NSFC, there is a 2 on 2 (that right real TEAM Epee where both fencers fence two other fencers at the same time, on the same hook ups, first touch scores the point, and the person touched sits out the next point) That means lots of 2 on 1's. Imagine, two opponents at the same time. Reaching across the strip and nailing an opponent. This is the ONLY event where you can feel like ZORRO!FCLI started this event years ago, and picked up by NSFC when FCLI went out of business. Lots of mixed teams (male/female) and is a great way to test your reflexes.http://askfred.net/Events/whoIsComing.php?tournament_id=7895I made it easy for you. Click on the link above and register today. 2009-02-18 07:30:15 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/9221/ 9221 So what exactly is the All-County Selection award? What does First and Second Team mean? Is it just a peice of paper or does it mean anything? Does it determine who fences in LIC or is that between team winners of S and N? 2009-02-12 19:48:27 lifencer123 <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/9188/ 9188 What we have here is the proverbial &quot;failure to comminicate&quot;. If Robert P. was the head of the Nassau coaches last year, somebody else this year, and there are several different rulebooks flying around and being applied, then WE have a problem that bickering will not solve. The problem is that fencing in Nassau at the high school level is nowhere near as organized as is Suffolk. This does ultimately hurt kids. Every Suffolk HS result is posted at Newsday.com, they even have posted standings. Nassau, no standings, and minimal results are reported. Why? Because Nassau lacks organization. I understand that some of the coaches try to take the bull by the horns, but it hasn't, and isn't working.We need a steering committee of coaches, parents, school administrators, etc.... to work with the governing body in Nassau (Section VIII) so all information, from coaches first aid certification, to what rules will be followed, as well as a &quot;method&quot; to detrmine disputes are decided on and disseminated.I suggest a website, on behalf of Nassau County HS Section VIII Fencing, where rules, requirements and results can be posted and relied on. If everyone feels as passionately about this sport as is reflected here online, it would be to everyone's benefit. Hey, we can even have some of the private clubs pay $5.00 a month so we can pay for the service fee' for maintaining and hosting the site. Every Nassau high school fencing team can even have their own section about their team which the coaches can upload information on their team, etc.....Its the lack of information that is killing this sport in Nassau County. 2009-02-10 09:49:25 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/9137/ 9137 What do you think about them....were they more or less expected? 2009-02-08 19:18:32 fabfencer <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/9132/ 9132 Shame on the Nassau County people in charge of todays out of control event at GNN High School. Shame on those coaches that also allowed it to happen. I will refrain from calling people out, but todays event was the ABSOLUTE worst event I have attended in over 20 years of fencing. The facility was fine, the GNN people were hospitable and friendly. Even the refereeing was not as bad as in the past. I am focusing on the event adminstration and coaches (because they too let this happen). Parents coaching teams?, obvious #1 slot fencers purposesly put into #2 slots to skew the results? (and in one case it was MORE than OBVIOUS), and finally - NO INDIVIDUAL tourney, as promised, because of what was called &quot;a computer glitch&quot; that would have forced all the fencers who qualified to allegedly wait over an hour for seeding, but by the time it was announced, it was already 8pm.Also, how can it be that the GNS and GNN coaches failed to not only attend the coaches meeting on thursday, but also failed to submit their rosters on thursday as per the deadlines agreed upon in advance? Then how can those two schools NOT forefeit their first round bouts when they handed in their rosters 15 minutes before the start of the actual event?You can BS the kids, but you CAN'T BS me.8 fencers in each weapon got absolutely SCREWED by the people running the event. If you can't get your act together, the don't do it! You have absolutely NO business running a fencing event, especially one where the kids worked their tails off to make the &quot;alleged individual round&quot;, after changing the format from last year claiming it to be fair. And THIS WAS the format you agreed to, wasn't it?Now I know why fencing in Suffolk has a much better reputation.How can the coaches (all of them) allow the event to be run like it was. The individual tourney would have only taken less than an hour more with 8 fencers in a pool for each weapon. Plus, how do you let a parent coach a High School team when a) they are not employed by the respective school district, b) they do NOT possess the necessary first aid as is required by section VIII, and c) even after a parent complained, the complaining parent was escorted away from the area and the other parent kept coaching.I don't know who is at the top of the responsibility chain, but they must STEP DOWN immediately. Go ahead, take your shots at me, but you already did your damage. I am filing a complaint with Section VIII because those of you in charge cannot seem to get it right or lack the courage to speak up to straighten it out. I am embaressed for Nassau County High School fencing, and feel terrible for the kids. Congrats to the winners today in the team events. Those were well deserved. 2009-02-07 22:18:12 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/9061/ 9061 I know I'm asking for trouble for starting this topic, but I am interested to hear which referees you feel are best and which are worst. Rank them, explain why you feel this way, tell us what they are doing right and wrong. Discuss individual referee's strengths and weaknesses from you POV. This is a place for constructive criticizm, not outright bashing of referees. 2009-02-04 21:31:36 iCoach <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/9012/ 9012 Instead of the top 2 in each county for All LI, how about thwe top 4 in each weapon from each county fence their counterparts from the other county in a All-star meet. the Voted &quot;Coaches of the year&quot; can coach those teams. Just a random idea that popped in my head. Along, with adding a fourth weapon...double-sided battleaxe maybe? Nother wacky idea. 2009-02-01 08:32:02 Stewie...Grif <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/8932/ 8932 This is Half Hollow Hills' second year fencing. We fenced them recently, and I wanted to know what you guys thought about them.... 2009-01-25 16:25:18 fabfencer <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/8927/ 8927 What did you guys think of the results? 2009-01-24 20:14:00 lifencer123 <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/8898/ 8898 Huntington is great this year, both guys and girls. Vernon O'Garra is one of the best fencers on the island. Your thoughts?? 2009-01-21 17:29:38 shortshortsandhightops <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/8858/ 8858 What team would you say is the worst team in Suffolk County? I personally think it's Half Hollow Hills 2009-01-20 18:08:30 lifencer123 <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/8613/ 8613 Who are the top Sabre's in each county? Which teams have the best Sabre squads? Who are the most EXCITING Sabre's to watch in each county 2009-01-11 16:31:03 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/8611/ 8611 Who are the top foils in each county? Which teams have the best Foil squads? Who are the most EXCITING Foil's to watch in each county 2009-01-11 16:21:54 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/8610/ 8610 Who are the top Epee's in each county? Which teams have the best Epee squads? Who are the most EXCITING epee's to watch in each county? 2009-01-11 16:20:33 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/8444/ 8444 Hey, when is Newsday going to print the current Nassau County standings on its website? Also, does anyone know when the Nassau County Individuals and Underclassmen tournament is? 2009-01-06 17:53:37 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/7856/ 7856 Wow, that was an extremely exciting. Major upsets everywhere! AJ Szylagi WON Men's Foil, Paul Schulman and Tyler Han**** being knocked out incredibly early, Olivi Curry's loss to Emilly Smith and Smith's loss to Cubano, etc. etc. Any input? 2008-12-17 19:05:42 Anarkei <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/7739/ 7739 Hey, this Sunday is the U17, and U20 Epee JO Qualifiers. Some of the best High School Epee fencers will be competing for a limited number of spots. Both events are USFA rated, and can be a good opportunity for you to gt a national rating. 2008-12-12 06:50:00 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/7271/ 7271 Nassau and Suffolk lost a lot of senior fencers to graduation. So what are your thoughts as to teams to beat and individuals that will rise to the top this year? 2008-11-12 07:25:45 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/3722/ 3722 Hey, just because the 2007-2008 HS fencing season is over doesn't mean that we stop talking fencing. Anybody have any predictions as to next years teams, who will dominate, who will surprise? How about individuals?, who should we be watching? Good luck to all who will be competing this summer in San Jose! Road trip! 2008-02-25 20:28:23 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/3353/ 3353 Thats right. The FCLI 2 on 2 Valentines Day Team Epee event is scheduled for this sunday, 2/10 at NSFC (Manhasset) starting at 12:30. This is a real-time 2 on 2 event where both teams fence the same strip at the same time. Lots of 2 on 1 action. Even you Sabre and Foil people would have a blast. Its the perfect thing after division champoinships this saturday. Grab a partner, loved one, or even a teamate, heck, its all out fun. There are already 17 teams signed up and growing fast. You'll see lots of HS Fencers there. Even some of the Suffolk County HS people may dare to show up. How do you think Kobe and Dacis would fare on the same team fencing at the same time, on the same strip?This event happens once a year and is a ton of fun. It starts at 12:30 so you can even sleep in late. I heard some of the coaches will be fencing as well.Good luck to everyone this saturday! 2008-02-07 17:07:04 Pisteoff <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/3243/ 3243 Going to Missions Fencing Camp. They have Wes Glon (Penn State Coach) he was awesome last year and I learned alot. Now Mission built dorms for sleep aways which should help raise the level even more. I will give my coach a little advertising:Sabre August 6-10 Wes GlonEpee August 13-17 with Kornel Udvarhelyi (National Coach)Foil August 20-24 with Buckie Leach (World Class Coach)check out www.missionfencing.com the info isn't up yet though 2008-02-05 20:15:00 petetyson <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/3203/ 3203 last years counties were awesome, with some pretty exciting matches. last years final standings were i think 1. GC 2. Jericho 3. GNS 4. OB , and i dont think i see much changing from last year except for mayb jericho or OB cus GNN could easily make it to teh final 4. its defeinelty gonna be close. what do u guys think? 2008-02-03 21:03:04 sabrfecner909 <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/3196/ 3196 I came across a camp on the net in East Hampton called Sankofa Sabre Camp and I'm trying to get more information about it. Has anyone ever been there or knows anything about it? 2008-02-03 11:09:25 XxSabrexX <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/3019/ 3019 Well, congrats to all on a great year of fencing. Her's how I see the top 5 in boys and girls. Boys: 1. GC 9-1? 2. GNS 8-2 3. JER 7-3 4. GNN 7-3 5. OB 7-3Girls: Top three at 8-2 are GC, GNN, and CSH 4. OB 6-4 5. GNS 6-4GC, GNN, and GNN are all 1-1 against each other I don't know how the tie-breakers will work. Maybe a coin toss? But, wow. Both boys and girls a great year. Anyone of these teams is clearly capable of beating the other at any given time. Those 4 vs. 5 matchups are the one's to watch. Good luck to all and to a great playoff year. 2008-01-29 23:56:18 TeleFoil <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/3002/ 3002 Okay, you may all know me. My name is Stephanie Aiuto, I'm a sabrest at GNNHS and if you do know me, you are aware that I&rsquo;m a decent fencer. I go to the national competitions. I travel internationally for competitions. I've been around. I'm not saying this to brag, I am saying this because some would think that if I do all of these things, I might know a little bit about fencing.Going to the high school meets and trying to fence and cheer and coach without strangling the refs has been increasingly harder to do with each passing year. And I am not just saying this because these refs make it hard for my team to win. I am saying this because every team deserves a fair shot to win and it is impossible to get that chance when not only is your director blatantly wrong on most calls, but also inconsistent with his/her calls.Now these directors may have been &quot;around the block&quot; but let's face it, since they got their reffing licenses (at least in sabre) the entire game has changed. Timing, right of way, actual rules. All of these have changed as a fact. Sabre has gotten faster and the right of way has gotten shorter. Different attacks mean different things. And I can see foilists struggle with trying to tell the ref the differences between beets and parries. Even the epeeists are freaking out about floor touches and the reposts while passing each other, and once a ref starts to mess up epee, there is no saving that ref. I submit that some sort of course of action be done to either remove or make each ref retake the reffing tests to renew their licenses. Something has to be done about this. And fast. 2008-01-29 20:31:11 stephaiuto <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2978/ 2978 according to nassau schedule,all teams had 11 matchesexcept gns(10),independents(9).if this is correct how is the unbalanced schedule accounted for as it relates to individual seedings and awards? 2008-01-29 04:29:23 agoldfe100@aol.com <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2934/ 2934 Can anyone tell me when the underclassmen tournament is? And who is eligible to fence in it? 2008-01-27 12:46:35 Epeefencer <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2908/ 2908 selling asymmetrics on ebay. Brand new only used once. Check them out. 2008-01-25 18:08:11 IamAmazingatFencing <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2891/ 2891 There has been some heavy topics and comments on this page, so, thought some funny stories would be nice to hear about. Ya' know, life;s little momenbts that happen. Well, they happen on the strip has well. Anyone ever make a long lunge and have their knickers rip wide open in the nether region? Or on the same lunge, accidently say, errrr, unexpectedly release a large volume of intesstinal gasses? Actually scored a touch that way. I lunged missed then braaaapppp, other guy stopped and went,&quot;Woah!&quot; Then I remised with a one light. Life' s little moments. Anyone ever sneeze thru their mask and end up with snot hanging thrun the mesh? Anyone else have any humorous anecdotal stories? 2008-01-25 05:17:19 TeleFoil <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2855/ 2855 can some one please explain qualifications for nassau individual championships? if you qualify,how are fencers seeded or placed,how many matches are fenced? what are qualifications for all county honors? 2008-01-23 14:28:10 agoldfe100@aol.com <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2832/ 2832 who will win the nassau team competition. many teams are vying for a championship but who will come out on top. garden city.....great neck south.....jericho.....great neck north......oysterbay ????!!!!???? lets hear some thoughts 2008-01-22 08:46:33 BIGMONKEYS <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2827/ 2827 now that the g-men are in the Superbowl. How happy is everyone the Individual tourney is not on Superbowl Sunday. 2008-01-22 00:42:54 TeleFoil <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2796/ 2796 Supposedly all schools are mandated to have grounded strips next year which is fantastic however some schools dont want them...well its b/c there teams aren't any good. I was fencing at Manhasset once.. omg i was sliding all over the place you cant even lunge, or fence well for that matter. anyone who has good foot work knows what I mean..... Anyway.. I really liked the strip Jericho had. It was a grounded Roll out strip, so its easily transportable and I felt the traction was fantastic.I cant stand wood floors anymore! Or oiled lenolioum AHHHHHHHHHH 2008-01-20 12:57:26 afencer123 <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2593/ 2593 anyone have any thoughts on which 9 fencers might make first team all LI? 2008-01-11 15:59:14 fencingfan <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2538/ 2538 You know that they have a great team. But how will they be in the future?SABREThey have the best sabre now. They lose their best Adam Fields and a good eddie kim. They still have David Leung. After this they have mediorcre to good backups. My team just fenced them and I lost to one of the better backups 5-1. and im good. (dont know his name)FOILFoil sucks. They lose their second best player. They still have nobody.EPPEELose their best in Austin Greenfield. I think they have a seventh grader. (don't know his name) hes suppose to be great. Not sure though. 2008-01-09 19:52:55 fencer889 <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2191/ 2191 She has had her glory past, and she makes sure she tells it to people every time before the meet now, but she has decayed and is no longer state-of-the-art, she messed up the whole meet today between Jericho and Great Neck North, and almost cost Jericho the game, who can we talk to address this issue? where is the authority? Tanya has faded so much that she randomly calls something by her will, she had my respect before, but she SHOULD BE FIRED! 2007-12-14 17:54:15 fsx <forumuser@vmix.com> http://forum.newsday.com/forums/thread/2058/ 2058 who's will be the top schools in Nassau &amp; Suffolf this year? Top individual fencers? 2007-12-06 14:25:00 fencingfan <forumuser@vmix.com>